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witnessed him smoking crack and even went with him to buy drugs from dealers in washington dc and how she had conversations with him between 2017 and 2018 about his drug use, telling him this can't go on. we can't do this. >> his responses would vary sometimes saying, leave me alone, i'm fine or at other times, i'm an addict and i'll figure it out my way. >> she also testified how hunter introduced her to crack in 28 18. it was a terrible experience that i went through. i'm embarrassed and i'm ashamed and i regret that period of my life but hundreds defense argues there's no evidence he was actively using drugs when he bought the gun in october 2018 and allegedly lied on the federal background check form. hallie testified that she found drugs and drug paraphernalia in hunter's car. days later, i did find some remnants of crack cocaine and drug paraphernalia. she went on to testify about when she found the gun saying, i was afraid to

touch it. i didn't know if it was loaded. the prosecution then produce video evidence of her tossing the gun into a grocery store, dumps i was so flustered. i realized it was a stupid idea. now, the prosecution also introduced a text messages between the two including when hallie asked where hunter was the night after he bought the gun, he responded. now off maryland av behind blue rock stadium, waiting for a dealer name mci but how they also testified during cross-examination. that's sometimes hunter would lie to her about his whereabouts. the last witness at the jury heard from today was an older gentleman who found the gun in that dumpster. now, he testified he was rummaging through the dumpster trying to find recyclable materials to sell, to earn some money when he came across the firearm the center of this case a prosecutors say they'll have two more witnesses, then it will be the defense's turn to put on their case. they say they have two or three

witnesses, but they still haven't decided if hunter biden will take the stand anderson all right. thanks so much. quick programming note prison biden speaks tomorrow morning from normandy, d-day ceremonies, continuing their and the president expected to talk about threats to democracy. it should get underway. we're told that about ten eastern time and you can see it right here. the news continues here on cnn front next, trump targets the courts. he's back on the campaign trail and ripping into the justice department. and tonight, president biden, pushing back plus officers who defended the capitol on january 6, booed by republican lawmakers and pennsylvania. others reportedly turning their backs on the men one officer who was heckled is my guest and a blueprint for murder prosecutors revealing chilling notes from the suspected gilgo beach serial killer or excuse charged with two more murders. let's go out front good

evening. >> i'm briana keeler in for erin burnett outfront tonight. trump on a tear, the former president back on the campaign trail. it's his first events since he was found guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records there's to cover up a hush money payment made to an adult film star, right before the 2016 election. and trump was on the attack i just went through a rigged trial in new york with a highly conflict it and i mean, highly conflicted, judge, where there was no crime, it was made up fabricated stuff that message comes as trump's longtime ally, steve bannon, has now been ordered to report to prison by july 1 after being found guilty of contempt for refusing to appear before a congressional committee. now that date is important because it puts bannon behind bars at

the same time that his old boss trump trump will learn of his sentence on july 11. >> but bannon making it clear that prison will not deter him or trump i want to say something specifically about the justice department merrick garland, lisa monaco, the uttar justice department. they're not going to shut up trump they're not going to shop navarro. they're not going to shut up bannon and they're certainly not going to shove maga and bannon will join a long list of trump allies who have served time, including peter navarro, who man and mentioned there, he's currently serving a four-month sentence. >> trump's former campaign chair paul manafort, spent nearly two years in prison former trump adviser pfizer george papadopoulos, trump's longtime cfo, allen weisselberg, and former trump fixer, michael cohen and just moments ago in a new interview, president biden slamming the former president for his unrelenting attacks on the justice department stop undermining the rule of law

stop undermining institutions. that's what this whole effort is. all the maga republicans are coming out saying this is a thick this is a jury that this was a good judge that setup to get trump. there's no evidence of any of that none. he's trying to in her mind, that's low-key. got a fair trial. the jury spoke like they speak in all cases and should be respected kristen holmes is out outfront live in phoenix where trump just spoken. >> sara marie is live in washington covering bannon's case. let's start with christians are christian, this is trump's first big campaign events since his conviction how did he handle that considering he is still under a gag order oh, briana, this was very different than what we saw at trump tower when there was speculation that he might have violated that gag order. >> he was talking about michael cohen didn't mention them by name, but said that one of the witnesses was the sleaze bag and it was clear who he was talking about since then clearly he has learned lesson today was much more vague. he

did kotb about the case of the terms you is does saying it's brig he said the judge was conflicted, but he didn't go into detail. he didn't mention him biden name really, keeping it very short. usually, this is the big focus of everything he does and i will mention that a majority of his speech was on message focused on the politics. he talked about immigration. we talked about the economy. he took questions. it was a roughly one an hour and 45 minute long event, which is surprising because what we have seen from him since that verdict has been nonstop talk about that case now it's campaign is hoping at some point that he would make this pivot to actually talking about political issues. remember, despite the fact that this is helping him with fundraising, they do believe the messaging around how this is political persecution linking mr. joe biden, which of course is we have reported this is not this trial was not linked to joe biden anyway, it was brought by the state of new york, has helped him with those fundraising numbers. there are still some questions about what

this means for him politically. so they'd rather him not do focus only on the trial, but also bring up those issues like immigration, like the economy a crime. >> now, that's event center tonight, there were thousands of people, many of them waiting outside and 112 degree heat. >> i will note that according to the fire department here, they did have to transport about 11 people because of heat exhaustion. people waiting outside to see the former president, brianna. well 11 people not is a lot. >> kristen holmes. thank you for that report. i want to turn now to this news about steve bannon. we have sarah marie out front in washington. sarah, i know you spoke with bannon's attorney they weren't actually expecting this result. folt now, i think even though you saw steve bannon playing it, cool in front of the cameras when he left court, sounding very defiant, his attorneys were stunned by the fact that the judge ordered bannon to report to prison by july 1st and begin serving his sentence. >> i think his attorneys felt very confident that they would have more time to exhaust all of theirs. they're appeals and to keep bannon out of prison

for the foreseeable future. now, bannon is not out of options, although this tight time frame is definitely working against him, he could go to the us court of appeals. he could go to the supreme court. he could ask for emergency intervention, but just to give you an idea of where they were in regrouping when i was talking to one of his attorneys after court, they were saying we still don't know what our next step is going to be in this, we don't know if or when we're going to be appeals court. we don't know if we're going to go straight to the us supreme court to seek some kind of emergency relief. and again, they have just weeks for another court to intervene in this matter in order to keep steve bannon out of prison for what was something a jury handed down in 2022, finding him guilty of defying subpoenas from the january 6 committee for both testimony as well calls for documents. brianna alright. >> sara marie live here in washington. thank you for that report and outfront now, scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w bush, and paul begala, former white house counselor to president bill clinton. scott

were watching trump back on the campaign trail. he started off the night by railing against his judgment in new york. he called the trial rig. he also those spent a lot of time on policy the border or the economy and so forth. i wonder, do you think the rigged claims fly with voters or is this just kind of emotional indulgence on his part? >> i think they certainly fly with the people who show up at those rallies. and that's why he's doing it. i mean, the polling is pretty clear that most people thought the trial was fair and also politically motivated, and that the jury probably got it right. i mean, it was some mixed messages coming out of the whole thing though how he's gonna win the race is where he shifted gears two and that's that people want to fire joe biden for review reasons. one is the economy, two is immigration, and three is they don't think he's up to a second term. so you can fire up your base with the early stuff that he talked about today. but the real bread and butter of this campaign is on the policy you mentioned. and any date hit those notes

tonight. >> yeah. paul, what do you think? i mean, he was there in a border state talking about border policy yeah. >> i that's exactly right. i mean i'm glad he's not working for donald trump. i'm glad it's working for cnn because and christian's report is really interesting to me and i'm sure there's to scott because this is the tension. right when trump talks about all this, paul, his own grudges, his own grievances, own vendettas, his own vengeance it rounds up people he's already got, but it alienates the people he needs. me. scott's exactly right. he's trump is running as a present with a low approval rating at a high cost limit and yet, biden is now inching ahead of trump. it's a dead heat race, but because perhaps the trial new york biden's inching ahead. so this tension i'm betting that trump cannot keep the focus off of himself. i am maybe unfair because i don't much like the guy, but he seems somewhat self-absorbed me biden's message needs to be and he's been on this sunday, was not on it in that clip you showed us, but needs to be

trump's in it for himself. i'm in it for you. that's very different than saying he's a cookies of coakley's grok, which he is but instead he by needs he saying that democrats one would say i am in this for you, for your health care, your child care, your right to choose. i'm in it for you. he in it for himself. that's the message that wins for the democrats and scott steve bannon it appears surprised that he is on this timeline to have to report for prison on july 1st. >> today trump called bannon's jail term equal total and complete american progeny. i will say you heard me with that list. i guess it's one in a series of tragedies because there are so many trump allies who have gone to prison at this point. does that give republicans pause when they consider working for the trump campaign or a perspective second term well, it shouldn't because ultimately you're responsible for your own behavior in the case of bannon he defined a congressional subpoena. he put forward a

bogus defense of executive privilege, which did not apply to him. >> he worked its way through the court and now he's going to jail. >> i mean, he should not be surprised by the outcome here because the defense he put up for divine the subpoena was invalid. so my advice to anybody going to work here for trump either on the campaign or in the white house, or for biden on the campaign are in the white house, is that you and you alone are responsible for your own actions. and you and you alone know the difference between right and wrong. and you should act accordingly. and if you do, you'll be just fine. >> paul, what do democrats do when it seems many americans and i know there's certainly a question about if enough care, but many of them, they just don't seem to care that trump as a felon right? >> and i think that's why the democrats have to make this about your life, not donald trump's mean, it's always, you know, i was politically right by bill clinton, he would always say, you know, elections are about the voters lives not

hours. and democrats need to take this to that message. of we're here for you. look, now, trump. i don't care if he was a better story, daniels. okay he was embed with big oil. there's brynn reporting that he met with all the big oil executives, asked him for $1 billion and told them in exchange for that heat wave, all of our environmental laws for them. now, that's something that affects you and me i'm not. very interested, in mr. trump's personal problems. i'm interested in the lives and families the american people. i wouldn't say to steve bannon when you said they're not going to shut me up, that is music to my ears. i don't want to shut up, steven. i don't want to shut up donald trump. de the best asset that democrats have, because the more they talk about this night conspiracy stuff, which raises him money in rows up their base. >> it helion eights. those voters who voted for nikki haley, who 20% of republicans consistently or protest votes against trump. and they will not come home with all that nutty conspiracy stuff. so i'm on record now. let's de ban and keep talking rather keep talking. don't shut up ever

scott changing subjects a bit here. i do want to play an exchange that president biden had with abc news. this is about his son hunter, who of course is on trial right now on gun charges in a criminal court let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. >> you have what do you what do you think of that answer there? >> scott well, he has to say that today i'm skeptical. >> he also didn't say he was ruling out a commutation but once you get past november, win or lose, joe biden will never face the american voters again. and once you get it free of that burden you could, you could make a lot of different decisions and we know how much he cares about his son and we know how much he likes to think of himself as a protector for his family. and it would be very difficult, i think for a father to see a sun sitting in jail, a particularly when last

summer, joe biden said on the record in an interview, my son hasn't done anything wrong color me skeptical, but i understand why he would say that in the middle of a campaign paul what color be admiring i've known joe biden a long time. >> i don't know 100, but i knew his older son, beau, the late beau biden there's no better, father, america and joe biden, mom and dad's got to dad. you're a mom we all love our children. and joe biden just said is, i'm going to put my country ahead of my kid and he means a nova man. and he's over there now honoring the men who died in normandy on, june 6, 1945 at d-day. >> every one of them had a mom and a dad who put their country ahead of their child every every parent who sends a kid into the military today, it's putting their country, it had of their child. >> so what joanne is doing is in the finest tradition of american parenthood. and i know he's telling the truth so i'm really moved though, because it shows me that the thing he loves most in life, as much as

he loves his kids more than any parent i know he loves his country even more. and that says something about his character. >> paul scott. >> thank you so much to both of you tonight. depreciate it. >> can i just shout out my texas longhorn softball team were playing for the championship and i winning the world series there you go thanks, guys i'll friend next republicans reportedly turning their backs and booing capitol hill police officers who were being honored for protecting the capitol on january 6 has happened in pennsylvania one of those officers who is heckled is next, plus president biden marking 80 years since d-day and his message, democracy is once again in under attack by vladimir putin sure. >> europe we see one stark example ukraine then invaded by a tyrant bent on domination and bo biden's widow takes the

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house. >> now, you could hear some of those booze while aquilino gonell. and harry dunn, we're being introduced, their one democratic representative tweeting quote, a number of house republicans literally booed, hissed and walked off the floor. there is no bottom. and the house speaker who introduced the officers telling the the washington post that republicans also turned their backs on them and called their behavior shameful out front. now, retired sergeant in iraq war veteran, aquilino gonell. he is one of the officers from january 6 who are now campaigning for joe biden in key swing states. he's also the author of american shield the immigrant sgt who defended democracy, sergeant, thank you for being with us and first, just tell us your experience, what it was like for you as you were there in that chamber

thanks for having me. >> you show brianna you know, it's shocking, but yet nasa pricing, i come to a spat that type of behavior from the same alito fishers who has sided with the insurrectionist people who attack the police officers. yet at the same time using the campaign slogan that they back the blue and the same time. and that same breath. turning their back on us because what we do on yummy six, we didn't do it for that democrat or republican. we did it because it was our job and we kept by off and four a mere presence because we know even worse supposed to be speaking at all we would use for being in the chamber to see that the house, how they work, then they're going how it works. and because of that, they felt offended and began during at us and turning their back on us. at the same time, telling us that they support the police were you

able to speak with any republicans maybe who booed or who turned their back or who walked out on you or even ones who didn't some of them they did approach it. >> i think the minority leader, mitch buying color, if i i'm not mistaken, his name, he did came in, apologized for the behavior of his colleagues just to the point that they had to, they can even come to themselves to the terms that reality assist that they had to control themselves to believe a lie and abandon truth. again, we went out there to make a statement is on the floor. we would just watch seeing how they're going works and they or honor are the people especially kids that were there being honor and be represented by their colleagues that they brought in and they applauded.

they stood up and cheered those people. but when it comes to us. >> they didn't you are now out campaigning for joe biden. >> obviously, pennsylvania is a critical state here, but i wonder because we've heard former president trump talk about revenge and retribution. you've been very vocal when it comes to opposing hand do you worry at all that he may target you because of how you have criticized him look, when i first began to speak, i was being neutral about certain things about what happened, about my experience, about what i did, what we did on the capitol but giovanna is not the one offering pardons for the same people who attack the law enforcement officers and myself. >> i was injured a sustained multiple injuries on that day, too severe off to require surgeries and years of mental health and physical therapy joe biden is another one saying

that he's going to suspend a constitution. he's not the one standing up and his rally in telling the people to rise up to listen a made-up national anthem, modified national anthem created by convicted felons, people who assaulted me and my my colleagues. so it was an easy decision that the republicans may for me, because at the same time, we tried to talk to those republicans and look what happened yesterday in harrisburg. they walk out not even not even given us a chance to talk and have a conversation because they didn't like january 6 at all. >> what would your message be to them those who obviously you didn't get to speak to, who walked out or booed you? >> you cannot be so detached from reality in abandoned, true to the point that youtube, you can even and knowledge that something bad happened the capital n, the officer might like myself because i was an

officer and they again, they use the slogan that they respect the police, that they back the blue, that they are supporting of law and order officers. and yet not a single one of them though, of those that worked out had the respect and decency to come in have a conversation with us. you could find it could be you don't want you support donald trump. that's great, but don't tell me that my reality, my truth, what happened to me it didn't happen because he did happen and i had to the videos, the picture the medical bills, the mental health treatment, and all this stuff that if i had done anything, are those things that i had that idea and jeremy six against any other group, there will be relishing me and praising me for the efforts that i did. and ashley being honored to be my present really quickly before i let you go, steve bannon been ordered to report to prison by july 1st, which of course former president trump has opposed

very vociferously. do you think that he belongs in jail? for not speaking to the january 6 committee he chose c. >> the decision he made himself i'm pretty sure that we're going to hear that he's a political hostage himself he made the decision for himself and he thought that he was above the law. and unfortunately, he got he went to the court system and a jury of his peers and the judge founding guilty and therefore, he needs to pay for the consequences that he did, just like the same people assaulted me more than 23 of them also are more than 40 officer rider attacked me and jeremy six, i gone through the core multiple times. 23 i just finished a statement for one another. righter than assaulted media. he's going to be sentenced in the near future and two weeks

ago on other one, you guys are centered 14 years was assault in multiple officers. so those people a claim, again, that they support law and order. but yet every single time that they had the chance to submit to the law and order system that they claim to respect, then they challenge and lose every single time because they do the opposite officer aquilino gonell. >> thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thanks for having me and down front. next president biden warning democracy is in grave danger. again, as he marks 80 years since d-day plus emotional testimony from beau biden's widow was she took the stand in hunter biden's trial there were giant so much they are the men and women building daibes. >> next generation submarines they are giants and what? they do because they work in a place where they can grow where they can learn the skills to build

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promise coming as he commemorated the 80th anniversary of d-day time, the sacrifices made on that day to the quote, unending fight between freedom and democracy, which is now playing out in your crane. >> fred pleitgen is out front as the us and its allies celebrate the heroes who stormed the beaches of normandy 80 years ago president joe biden warning freedom in europe and the world are under a tack again, this time by russia the struggle between a dictatorship and freedom is unending here in europe we see one stark example ukraine has been invaded by a tyrant. >> then on domination while russian leader vladimir putin was once again not invited to the commemoration, ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy was on hand likening ukraine,

struggle to fend off russia's invasion asian allies, war against nazi germany say view the as russia intended suffice its attacks against ukraine, often using heavy aerial bombs that biden administration has given t of the go-ahead to hit the russians back in russian territory using some us supplied-weapons, like the high mars multiple rocket launchers an angry putin saying nato risks of fully lawn war with russia. but that moscow might also give arms to us adversaries around the world. >> so then you put them emblem jhanas why would we not have the right to supply in our weapons of the same class to those regions of the world where there will be strikes on the sensitive facilities of those countries that are doing this against russia but president biden, making clear, ukraine can only use us supplied-weapons to hit russian territory close to the front

lines. >> the president said in an interview with abc, we're not talking about giving weapons to strike moscow, to strike the kremlin, to strike instance just across the border where they're receiving significant fire from conventional weapons, kremlin controlled media, irate, mocking biden's comments the epa, every time you have to make reference to edge this, of course, is not ageism on our part, knots mockery, just speech. >> it seems to me that we should already talked about quoting and elderly and while putin claims he would work with any us administration after the presidential election in november, the russian leader, repeating unsubstantiated claims by donald trump but the recent hush money trial, the former president just lost was politically motivated for the rest of the world, it is evidenced that prosecution of trump in court over allegations related to events that happened two years ago without any direct proof, putin said, this is purely using the court system or political purposes.

you know, briana with vladimir putin coming out and saying that russia could send weapons to the vicinity of countries that are supporting ukraine. >> will the cuban government tonight is coming out and saying they expect a group of russian warships to visit that island in the coming days, including a nuclear powered submarine. now the cuban as are saying, none of the russian ships are actually carrying nuclear weapons. we've reached out to the russian government, but so far have not gotten any comment. brianna all right fred pleitgen. thank you for that report. and out front now, retired army lieutenant general mark hertling and general, you hear the president theories insisting that ukraine can only use us it's weapons for these limited strikes just inside of russia over the border from kharkiv. do you think though that the us might eventually need to allow ukraine to expand the use of those weapons it's possible briana, but what the president was talking about today was what we in the military would call either tactical or operational deep

strikes. what those are our methods to interfere with any potential effects of the opponent on the battlefield, to hit them before they are able to use the kind of equipment hi, there would have enough effect on the tactical fight as russia has executed this war, they have moved their equipment further and further back from the front lines. and they have been unmolested. i think the president is right in giving the potential use of these kind of weapons to hit these operational targets. within the perimeter of the russian attacks on the frontline of ukraine putin is warning that supplying weapons to ukraine is a dangerous step. >> he says, any country that does so as quote directly involved in war against russia what do you think putin would actually do to retaliate against the u.s. or do you think this is just bluster? >> well, i believe is just bluster. briana. i have not kept track of mr. putin's the number of times mr. putin has said this is going to cause

some kind of catastrophic effect, and he's implying the use of either tactical or strategic nuclear weapons. but he has been saying this for the past two plus years. so i think the biden administration realize that it's a block and it's a bluster and he won't do that because he knows what might happen if he does. so i think it is continuing bluster and it's the very fact that he has now become increasingly a war criminal based on the kinds of tactics that he's using and going after ukrainian infrastructure and ukrainians millions. i think mr. putin is trying to put up a veil of domination and it's not working very well. >> it was such a moving commemoration today in normandy. i know you were watching part of this to the 80th anniversary of d-day. biden talking about the quote, unending fight between freedom and democracy you. were of course the commanding general of the us army, europe and the seventh army. and you have a special connection to europe what do you think on this anniversary, the beginning of

europe's liberation or world war ii? >> well, i wasn't watching brian, but i was listening to cnn as i was driving from gettysburg to washington, dc after doing a staff right at gettysburg. but it wasn't extremely emotional and moving ceremony. it was tremendous. the words of each one of the speakers to include some of my friends like secretary austin and secretary, does you who, who's the president or the secretary of the american battle monuments commission that takes care of the cemeteries all year long. we're just extremely moving and dedicated to democracy. not only in what happened 80 years ago and the commemoration of that event, but what might happen in the future? and it's been terrific having had experiences multiple times at normandy, both on memorial days and d-day celebrations. it just brought back a lot of memories of the young men i will say that i used to meet their who were veterans of this fight? >> yeah, they had some of those young men jumping into the beach. it was pretty amazing to

watch. you have to go back and see it. it was some pretty extraordinary visuals, general, it's great to have you general hurtling. thank you so much. >> always a pleasure, brianna. thank you very much now, for our next dramatic testimony today in hunter biden's trial, his late brother's widow, hallie biden, taking the stand, speaking about her romantic relationship with hunter for and the gun that's at the center of the trial, plus new murder charges for the alleged gilgo beach serial killer is we're learning grisly details about the methods investigators say he used to kill his victims that smell could be 8 million older, causing bacteria. good thing adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria that detergents leave behind clean as good sanitized is better time to press rewind with neutrogena rapid rigueur, repair, it has durham proven retinol expertly formulated to target stem cell turnover and

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about his drug use to buy a gun. >> let's go right to evan perez, our senior justice correspondent, who is in the courtroom all day today. evan, a very emotional day of tests jim, one from hallie biden, how do you think the jury reacted to it well, brianna, the fact that she is the star witness, i think you could tell that from the jurors are jurors who are sitting forward in their seats. >> some of them who don't normally take notes were absolutely taking those during her testimony, she spent much of the day on the stand and look part of what she brought for the for the prosecution is that she brings testimony about possible use of drugs. hunter biden's possible use of drugs into october of 2018, which is when he bought this gun, teuber 12, 2018 is when he bought the gun and really she's the only witness second that has testified that she believes he was using drugs, using cocaine, crack cocaine on october 22 or 23rd. now, under

cross-examination, she acknowledged that she didn't actually see him using crack cocaine. that de are that night. she only believes she did he did because of his behaviors. so that is something i think the defense certainly has going in their favor. what we did see from the prosecution so video of hallie biden on october 23rd, 11 days after he bought the gun. she had founded in his car. she said she found what she thought was resident you and she was worried about him. she said, i was i didn't want him to harm himself and i didn't want my kids to find it and to harm themselves. and so she says you can see in the video, she shows up at a parking at a supermarket and throws it in a trash can and then hours later shows up panicking as she's trying to find it and doesn't encounter that's a big part of this case the prosecution evan, is expected to rest tomorrow after calling a few more witnesses.

>> what do we know? so so far about what the defense plans to do well, we expect that the defense is going to be able to pick through to start their case on friday afternoon. >> we heard from them in the past. it's certainly in the openings abbe lowell said that he anticipates putting jimmy biden, the president's brother, on the stand, as well as naomi biden, hunter biden's daughter. so we expect that those two are among the witnesses that they plan to bring two as part of their case. what they also suggested also though, is that they had not made a decision on whether hunter biden will take the stand in his own defense. that's something that they say. my it happened perhaps next week. so we'll be here next week in wilmington for the conclusion, we anticipate of this trial, bianna certainly be looking for that evan pedal as thank you so much for that report and outfront next, more charges against the suspected gilgo beach serial killer as prosecutors reveal chilling

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outfront authorities revealing new evidence today, including a manifesto containing chilling details of how they say accused gilgo beach serial killer rex heuermann, plan to the murders. >> and in one case, the dismemberment of his victims, the former architect now charged with two more murders, jessica taylor killed in 2003 sandra castillo in 1993 his intent was specifically to locate these victims to hunt them down, and to bring them to bring them under his control, and to kill them he riemann already charged with the killings of these for women, infamously known as the gilgo four discovered along the same stretch of long island highway more than a decade ago, there were audible gasps in the courtroom as prosecutors introduced a word document found on a laptop in march described as a gruesome blueprint for serial killings prosecutors say heuermann created it into thousand and modified it over years before

trying to delete it in that document. is in some cases, identical to the methodology used to murder the six victims in this case court papers show it had sections and how to dispose of a body, avoid getting caught in what supplies may be needed with horrific detail, like hit harder remember, don't charge gas more sleep and noise control equal more playtime and use pushpins to hang dropped close, went back into the house. we also found in area where they were pushpins into the drop ceiling. >> it even included a morbid section on lessons learned and things to remember, like use heavy rope for neck, light robe, broke under stress of being tightened. here are men remained unemotional as this new evidence was revealed in court, he pleaded not guilty to all the murder new charges are always horrific in yeah, he's in a bad place in terms of the new charges, 20 ruled taylor was decapitated and her

dismembered body was found in 2003, nearly eight years later, taylor school hands and forearm are found near the dumpsite of the gilgo four victims where heuermann's truck was seen by witnesses investigators say heuermann was also in the same area where tailor made one of her last calls to her mother. >> her mother cried as the new allegations were read. >> this year has been 21 years and she was taken from us longer than the chance that she got to be alive. >> advanced dna technology was used to connect heuermann to harris found on remains a bow taylor and castillo, according to the court paperwork, because de naked and mutilated body was found in a wooded area in southampton in 1993. she may have been heuermann's first alleged victim and brin, how does this change the investigation? could we maybe see even more charges you have around it? >> i mean, it's obvious that this investigation has ics expanded on several levels, not only with the discovery of that

manifesto, as prosecutors call it, but also new evidence. investigators uncovered 350 additional electronic devices. we're talking cameras, computers, cell phones, all in new searches so there is this possibility that may there are more victims that will be identified in the future, maybe more closure for some of these families were waiting for answers in the meantime, heuermann, he's back in court. next one month. brianna. all right. we'll be looking for that brand. thank you for that report. i'm joined now by casey jordan. she's a criminologist, a behavioral analyst, and an attorney and casey, this planning document in this indictment allegedly superseding indictment, allegedly found on heuermann's computer. what stands out to you? >> the level of detail and how it matches what the forensics has revealed already apart from the fact that, you know, he had already been charged with the first four women found at gilgo beach. his attorneys have been arguing, well, these other victims were mutilated and the ones that gilgo beach have not

been mutilated. so it doesn't fit the mo it's got to be somebody else. and of course, that's the best defense they have keep hoping and pretending it's somebody else who did this but now that we have a document found on heuermann's computer, which details exactly what he did and learning from those mistakes, like use thicker rope remember to dispose of gloves, remember to check your tire tracks. the thing about the push pins with the drop cloths. >> this really kind of lays out for us how these women may have died. >> perhaps it was in his own home. and the fact that he tried to get rid of these documents and that they were still found on the computer memory is really going to be in connection with the dna. a kind of nail in the coffin for this yeah. >> i can overcome. that's what i was going to say in the dna is just so definitive here. >> he's still maintaining his innocence. >> of course how is this though

in court well, the dna came from a minimum of one hair and of course, his attorneys are saying one here, one here is not reasonable, but whether the hair is his or belongs to his wife, it shows transference and the dna you can try to attack in court, but when you have dna plus manifesto, again, with details that show he learned from his mistakes and dates. >> the killings back to 2000. i think that these two things combined are going to be very difficult for the defense to overcome and it makes me wonder, especially since humans wife was not in court today and she's been supportive in the past, but maybe her absence today's speaks volumes. it wouldn't surprise me if you're a man does begin to think perhaps a plea bargain isn't as best interest. >> her absence as well during these murders. that's pointed out in a superseding indictment, the pattern of her being out of town with the kids this began or at least with one of these this began, of course, was for alleged murders. now you've got six alleged

murders. do you think there are more victims out there? how many more do you think well, we've had ten murders that we believe are linked. >> we've gone from four charges to six charges. the remaining four that we are attributing to him as a suspect may or may not be charged. but i can almost guarantee you that they're going to be more than ten he is smart enough to stretch his murders out to really do enough planning the document proves that. so they he could avoid a cooling off period that might fit a pattern. he very meticulously worked to change his pattern by becoming more organized guys but that means that there could be murders out there outside of the long island, new york area because we know he was an avid hunter that may never be attributed to him. i think ten is a minimum. we may never know the answer to that and they may never be charged. but i think that we're all thinking more expansively based on these new findings wow, these details we learned, they are just terrific,

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